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00:01:12,730 --> 00:01:10,700 fireside chats his aim was to reassure 30 00:01:14,890 --> 00:01:12,740 the common man that our society would 31 00:01:16,780 --> 00:01:14,900 recover from its troubled times while 32 00:01:19,410 --> 00:01:16,790 we're far from nineteen thirty and I 33 00:01:22,450 --> 00:01:19,420 deal with a different kind of fire 34 00:01:29,470 --> 00:01:22,460 worldly frustration we offer a brush 35 00:01:30,910 --> 00:01:29,480 conversation I'm Carl wood and happy 36 00:01:33,340 --> 00:01:30,920 days are here again higher side 37 00:01:35,109 --> 00:01:33,350 Cheddar's as we put the mine star on top 38 00:01:37,090 --> 00:01:35,119 of the podcast tree that is our 39 00:01:39,850 --> 00:01:37,100 long-running elemental series with sh 40 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:39,860 Imagineer and i'm sure many of us have 41 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:41,690 shared the sentiment that something is 42 00:01:45,190 --> 00:01:43,490 just not right with the way in which our 43 00:01:47,670 --> 00:01:45,200 modern system engages with the world 44 00:01:50,290 --> 00:01:47,680 around us with all of its destruction 45 00:01:52,810 --> 00:01:50,300 combustion pollution solutions rather 46 00:01:55,630 --> 00:01:52,820 than evoking harmony synergy and 47 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:55,640 sustainability and it's a nice hippy 48 00:01:59,710 --> 00:01:57,650 dippy sentiment to say that we should be 49 00:02:02,050 --> 00:01:59,720 better as a species but until this 50 00:02:04,210 --> 00:02:02,060 rahmani-r series many of us didn't have 51 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:04,220 better ideas to replace the problem 52 00:02:08,139 --> 00:02:06,410 causing practices of the oil oligarchs 53 00:02:10,300 --> 00:02:08,149 and the titans of industry that got us 54 00:02:11,979 --> 00:02:10,310 here but we covered air in our 55 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:11,989 introductory conversation about the 56 00:02:17,199 --> 00:02:14,930 overarching ether theory alchemy Ormus 57 00:02:19,090 --> 00:02:17,209 and the sonora arrow club showing 58 00:02:21,190 --> 00:02:19,100 suppressed examples of what might be 59 00:02:23,229 --> 00:02:21,200 possible if we embraced ether physics 60 00:02:26,050 --> 00:02:23,239 and adopted a more naturalist outlook 61 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:26,060 and approach to energy and fuel then in 62 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:28,010 round two we talked about the earth and 63 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:29,209 the lost knowledge of the Native 64 00:02:32,740 --> 00:02:31,010 Americans flipping the script on the 65 00:02:34,930 --> 00:02:32,750 story we've been told of primitive 66 00:02:36,550 --> 00:02:34,940 savages living off the land to a deeper 67 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:36,560 understanding of their engineered 68 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:38,690 abundance land spirits and damn near 69 00:02:43,050 --> 00:02:40,970 magical ways to yield more from the 70 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:43,060 earth by abiding by the golden ratio 71 00:02:47,860 --> 00:02:46,250 thirdly we tackled water alchemy viktor 72 00:02:50,470 --> 00:02:47,870 schauberger and the overlooked 73 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:50,480 properties of h2o how we can energize 74 00:02:54,670 --> 00:02:52,730 and positively charge water for better 75 00:02:57,190 --> 00:02:54,680 health and abundance rather than pumping 76 00:03:00,070 --> 00:02:57,200 dead fluoride filled fuel through lead 77 00:03:02,289 --> 00:03:00,080 pipes like we tend to do and in our last 78 00:03:04,330 --> 00:03:02,299 conversation we took a detour from the 79 00:03:06,940 --> 00:03:04,340 alchemical series to dedicate a day to 80 00:03:08,650 --> 00:03:06,950 fascism and how those oily appendages in 81 00:03:10,930 --> 00:03:08,660 the nefarious view manipulate our 82 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:10,940 mindset and politics to creep back into 83 00:03:16,810 --> 00:03:13,310 any system wise enough to try and root 84 00:03:18,849 --> 00:03:16,820 them out but today folks today is the 85 00:03:22,330 --> 00:03:18,859 culmination of a long-running thread 86 00:03:24,310 --> 00:03:22,340 that began back in July of 2016 and as 87 00:03:26,379 --> 00:03:24,320 its progressed I have learned so much 88 00:03:28,390 --> 00:03:26,389 about alternative models bright minds 89 00:03:30,490 --> 00:03:28,400 and better practices that would be the 90 00:03:33,039 --> 00:03:30,500 crux of ether physics and the alchemical 91 00:03:35,379 --> 00:03:33,049 sciences if we were ever truly to break 92 00:03:37,599 --> 00:03:35,389 that quarantine so here to tie it all 93 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:37,609 together with his theory of the mind my 94 00:03:42,610 --> 00:03:39,530 friend and yours Imagineer my man 95 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:42,620 welcome back to the higher side well as 96 00:03:48,610 --> 00:03:46,250 always a great intro man it's a mouthful 97 00:03:51,009 --> 00:03:48,620 just to cover where we've been but I 98 00:03:52,750 --> 00:03:51,019 really am in awe of this series it's one 99 00:03:55,180 --> 00:03:52,760 of my favorite things that's happened on 100 00:03:57,490 --> 00:03:55,190 THC so big thanks to you for bringing it 101 00:03:59,560 --> 00:03:57,500 all to us I am proud to provide the 102 00:04:02,110 --> 00:03:59,570 platform for it at least a little 103 00:04:04,180 --> 00:04:02,120 contribution and today we're getting 104 00:04:07,270 --> 00:04:04,190 into your theory of the mind and sort of 105 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:07,280 the true fundamentals of reality it's 106 00:04:11,890 --> 00:04:09,650 the thread that can kind of bring it all 107 00:04:13,509 --> 00:04:11,900 together and I guess how do we kick this 108 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:13,519 off I know where we're going and it's 109 00:04:17,979 --> 00:04:16,010 gonna get pretty crazy but maybe a 110 00:04:22,330 --> 00:04:17,989 little overview of the mind to grease 111 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:22,340 the wheels yeah so most people when they 112 00:04:26,700 --> 00:04:23,840 think of the mind they think of the 113 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:26,710 brain that's basically what we've been 114 00:04:33,460 --> 00:04:31,250 told is that consciousness it's an 115 00:04:35,890 --> 00:04:33,470 epiphenomenon it's a byproduct of 116 00:04:38,650 --> 00:04:35,900 material interactions and chemical 117 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:38,660 interactions within the brain and then 118 00:04:41,590 --> 00:04:39,770 you recognize you know there's 119 00:04:44,050 --> 00:04:41,600 electrical activity in there and things 120 00:04:45,670 --> 00:04:44,060 like that but basically it's like we're 121 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:45,680 a bunch of robots 122 00:04:53,790 --> 00:04:48,410 and we're operating off of genetic 123 00:04:57,939 --> 00:04:53,800 programming and outside stimuli to 124 00:05:00,820 --> 00:04:57,949 generate our consciousness but the thing 125 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:00,830 is that there are a lot of examples that 126 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:04,449 poke enormous holes in that idea and 127 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:09,770 this is where the whole concept of 128 00:05:15,610 --> 00:05:13,490 reality starts to break down and I think 129 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:15,620 that's one of the reasons why this stuff 130 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:18,770 has been so suppressed is because the 131 00:05:24,559 --> 00:05:22,490 powers that be realized if we know who 132 00:05:27,469 --> 00:05:24,569 we are at a more fundamental level 133 00:05:30,499 --> 00:05:27,479 and our consciousness is not just 134 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:30,509 something that sits in our heads but 135 00:05:35,719 --> 00:05:32,639 that we're an integral part of a 136 00:05:39,079 --> 00:05:35,729 conscious reality that that would 137 00:05:40,909 --> 00:05:39,089 completely break down the system of 138 00:05:45,699 --> 00:05:40,919 control that they had established and 139 00:05:49,699 --> 00:05:45,709 that it would allow us to be able to get 140 00:05:54,290 --> 00:05:49,709 uncontrolled information from existence 141 00:05:56,570 --> 00:05:54,300 in reality itself hmm yeah man the mind 142 00:05:58,760 --> 00:05:56,580 does unfold into a pretty deep rabbit 143 00:06:00,589 --> 00:05:58,770 hole of its own and I think you nailed 144 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:00,599 it with why this is such a crucial 145 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:02,639 component of the big conspiracy and 146 00:06:06,949 --> 00:06:04,649 we're gonna get into all the ways that 147 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:06,959 things could be different but I also 148 00:06:11,420 --> 00:06:09,089 wanted to ask you about the two 149 00:06:13,129 --> 00:06:11,430 hemispheres and just how distinct they 150 00:06:15,769 --> 00:06:13,139 really are because this will speak to 151 00:06:18,799 --> 00:06:15,779 your point about accessing uncontrolled 152 00:06:21,339 --> 00:06:18,809 information and to quote the Forgotten 153 00:06:23,869 --> 00:06:21,349 mind essay that you sent me you wrote as 154 00:06:26,179 --> 00:06:23,879 far as I've been able to discern there 155 00:06:27,859 --> 00:06:26,189 are four functional aspects of the mind 156 00:06:30,199 --> 00:06:27,869 that are responsible for our 157 00:06:32,449 --> 00:06:30,209 consciousness there is the conscious 158 00:06:34,609 --> 00:06:32,459 aspect we're all familiar with the 159 00:06:36,829 --> 00:06:34,619 subconscious aspect we often have 160 00:06:38,989 --> 00:06:36,839 difficulty in interpreting the 161 00:06:42,109 --> 00:06:38,999 unconscious aspect which most of us 162 00:06:44,889 --> 00:06:42,119 simply react to and the sub unconscious 163 00:06:47,420 --> 00:06:44,899 aspect which contains our essence in 164 00:06:50,569 --> 00:06:47,430 functional terms the conscious mind is 165 00:06:53,509 --> 00:06:50,579 made up of male serial and female 166 00:06:57,019 --> 00:06:53,519 parallel aspects as is the unconscious 167 00:06:59,029 --> 00:06:57,029 mind and this does come up in some of 168 00:07:02,179 --> 00:06:59,039 the supplemental material you sent me 169 00:07:04,699 --> 00:07:02,189 also but maybe you could explain the 170 00:07:06,829 --> 00:07:04,709 different kinds of processing and where 171 00:07:10,189 --> 00:07:06,839 they correspond to for the uninitiated 172 00:07:13,249 --> 00:07:10,199 out there we have serial parallel and 173 00:07:15,709 --> 00:07:13,259 even quantum processing and this is a 174 00:07:18,529 --> 00:07:15,719 pretty important aspect of the big 175 00:07:20,839 --> 00:07:18,539 picture isn't it yeah it's called the 176 00:07:23,340 --> 00:07:20,849 unconscious mind but really it's more 177 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:23,350 the super conscious mind 178 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:25,810 it's just been characterized like that 179 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:29,650 in psychology so we have our conscious 180 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:31,360 mind and then we have our unconscious 181 00:07:36,990 --> 00:07:33,490 mind our conscious mind is made up of 182 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:37,000 our left and right hemispheres of our 183 00:07:41,850 --> 00:07:38,800 brain 184 00:07:43,860 --> 00:07:41,860 and the left hemisphere is more serial 185 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:43,870 and the right hemisphere is more 186 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:46,409 parallel and then that pattern is 187 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:49,360 mirrored in the unconscious mind as well 188 00:07:55,230 --> 00:07:51,490 or the superconscious mind whichever way 189 00:07:57,110 --> 00:07:55,240 you want to think about it so to start 190 00:08:00,270 --> 00:07:57,120 with serial and parallel processing 191 00:08:03,659 --> 00:08:00,280 serial processing is basically like what 192 00:08:07,170 --> 00:08:03,669 you think of decision-making as in your 193 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:07,180 conscious mind you go down a path and 194 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:09,759 you make some assumptions and then you 195 00:08:14,730 --> 00:08:12,490 test them out and you might go down the 196 00:08:18,450 --> 00:08:14,740 wrong path and then have to go back and 197 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:18,460 correct some of your assumptions and you 198 00:08:22,549 --> 00:08:20,289 know that's kind of how most people 199 00:08:26,749 --> 00:08:22,559 think about thinking 200 00:08:29,269 --> 00:08:26,759 but basically that's a very tortuous 201 00:08:32,869 --> 00:08:29,279 path and it's one that takes a lot of 202 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:32,879 effort to make any real progress on but 203 00:08:37,369 --> 00:08:35,370 there's also parallel processing and now 204 00:08:38,689 --> 00:08:37,379 we're seeing this actually in our 205 00:08:42,639 --> 00:08:38,699 computers where we have all these 206 00:08:45,079 --> 00:08:42,649 different dyes on our computers and the 207 00:08:46,610 --> 00:08:45,089 information is being parallel processed 208 00:08:49,939 --> 00:08:46,620 which means that basically it's broken 209 00:08:52,809 --> 00:08:49,949 up into smaller packets and it just goes 210 00:08:54,980 --> 00:08:52,819 through this large matrix of 211 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:54,990 computations that happen all at the same 212 00:09:01,009 --> 00:08:58,410 time so you know if you break things up 213 00:09:04,069 --> 00:09:01,019 and just have very simple operations 214 00:09:07,879 --> 00:09:04,079 done you can get through a lot more 215 00:09:10,150 --> 00:09:07,889 information quicker but at the cost of 216 00:09:12,139 --> 00:09:10,160 not being able to do these complex 217 00:09:15,290 --> 00:09:12,149 operations like you can with pseudo 218 00:09:17,179 --> 00:09:15,300 processing and then when it comes to 219 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:17,189 quantum processing so the whole thing 220 00:09:23,049 --> 00:09:19,920 with quantum processing is that you're 221 00:09:27,410 --> 00:09:23,059 essentially achieving a resonance with 222 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:27,420 the correct answer in that way and by 223 00:09:34,970 --> 00:09:31,290 doing so you just pull the answer out of 224 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:34,980 the substructure of reality and you're 225 00:09:41,090 --> 00:09:38,910 able to then get the answer quickly but 226 00:09:45,079 --> 00:09:41,100 the thing is that you're only getting a 227 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:45,089 very small aspect your realizations from 228 00:09:49,340 --> 00:09:47,610 this can be very vast and broad but it 229 00:09:52,549 --> 00:09:49,350 has to be broken down by the other 230 00:09:55,549 --> 00:09:52,559 information processing methods in order 231 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:55,559 for it to actually be digestible mm-hmm 232 00:10:00,019 --> 00:09:58,410 so if that makes sense yeah definitely 233 00:10:01,699 --> 00:10:00,029 and there is a real difference you can 234 00:10:04,009 --> 00:10:01,709 see in people you know it's pretty 235 00:10:06,169 --> 00:10:04,019 common to hear a left-handed person 236 00:10:08,269 --> 00:10:06,179 called out as oh you're left-handed you 237 00:10:10,579 --> 00:10:08,279 must be creative because in a certain 238 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:10,589 sense we recognize there is a difference 239 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:13,110 between people who are more left or 240 00:10:18,730 --> 00:10:15,750 right brained as they say but that is 241 00:10:22,610 --> 00:10:18,740 about as deep as we take it sometimes 242 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:22,620 yeah and there's a talk that was given 243 00:10:27,710 --> 00:10:24,210 by 244 00:10:29,180 --> 00:10:27,720 dr. Jill Bolte Taylor called my stroke 245 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:29,190 of insight and it's a really good 246 00:10:35,420 --> 00:10:31,710 illustration of this because she talks 247 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:35,430 about she had a stroke and the left 248 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:37,050 hemisphere of her brain was being 249 00:10:42,260 --> 00:10:39,110 affected but her right hemisphere wasn't 250 00:10:44,780 --> 00:10:42,270 as blood flow came and went 251 00:10:48,290 --> 00:10:44,790 she would have moments where she was 252 00:10:50,570 --> 00:10:48,300 able to focus and try and call someone 253 00:10:54,730 --> 00:10:50,580 to tell them that she needed help and 254 00:10:57,890 --> 00:10:54,740 then like falling back into this really 255 00:11:00,140 --> 00:10:57,900 unfocused and getting this barrage of 256 00:11:02,510 --> 00:11:00,150 thought and imagery and then like all of 257 00:11:05,930 --> 00:11:02,520 a sudden as again as her left hemisphere 258 00:11:07,970 --> 00:11:05,940 came online for a moment so that's 259 00:11:12,020 --> 00:11:07,980 something where you can get a real feel 260 00:11:15,020 --> 00:11:12,030 for how this works on a consciousness 261 00:11:18,050 --> 00:11:15,030 level mm-hmm or an experiential level 262 00:11:19,790 --> 00:11:18,060 yeah that was really interesting to hear 263 00:11:23,180 --> 00:11:19,800 that TED talk where she's just 264 00:11:26,510 --> 00:11:23,190 describing as a brain doctor studying 265 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:26,520 her own stroke and just seeing one 266 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:28,770 hemisphere just completely kind of shut 267 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:30,810 down and just living in the other one 268 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:32,130 and just being like yeah I can't 269 00:11:37,850 --> 00:11:35,490 differentiate my hand from anything like 270 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:37,860 there's no separation yeah it was just 271 00:11:44,030 --> 00:11:40,290 really intense the details of her trying 272 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:44,040 to just dial a phone to get help really 273 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:45,570 fascinating but it does give you a lot 274 00:11:50,660 --> 00:11:48,330 of insight into when one hemisphere is 275 00:11:54,650 --> 00:11:50,670 gone this is how just the other one in 276 00:11:57,560 --> 00:11:54,660 isolation operates so basically these 277 00:12:00,920 --> 00:11:57,570 are the two forms of processing and this 278 00:12:03,340 --> 00:12:00,930 is also mirrored in the unconscious mind 279 00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:03,350 as well so 280 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:05,360 in the conscious mind is the left and 281 00:12:07,870 --> 00:12:07,250 right hemisphere but in the unconscious 282 00:12:11,670 --> 00:12:07,880 mind 283 00:12:14,740 --> 00:12:11,680 it's basically your limbic system and 284 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:14,750 your brain stem which actually connects 285 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:16,450 to all of your organs 286 00:12:21,340 --> 00:12:19,490 now the brainstem obviously is pulling 287 00:12:23,530 --> 00:12:21,350 all this information from all these 288 00:12:27,130 --> 00:12:23,540 different places so that is the parallel 289 00:12:31,110 --> 00:12:27,140 system and the limbic system because 290 00:12:33,610 --> 00:12:31,120 that's what actually releases hormones 291 00:12:35,710 --> 00:12:33,620 different neurotransmitters and that's 292 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:35,720 the more male aspect that's the one 293 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:38,450 that's actually affecting the rest your 294 00:12:46,780 --> 00:12:43,310 body organs so that's where these two 295 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:46,790 things start to come together and so the 296 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:49,970 main two organs or well I'd say there's 297 00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:53,510 three main organs in the sub unconscious 298 00:12:59,050 --> 00:12:55,910 mind that connect up to the brainstem 299 00:13:02,980 --> 00:12:59,060 and those would be the heart the lungs 300 00:13:06,750 --> 00:13:02,990 and also the stomach and the heart 301 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:06,760 because it is a electromagnetic coupling 302 00:13:13,390 --> 00:13:10,370 for all these different organs and then 303 00:13:15,430 --> 00:13:13,400 also and it provides a pulsation through 304 00:13:19,420 --> 00:13:15,440 the body that acts as a entrainment 305 00:13:21,580 --> 00:13:19,430 system for everything and then the lungs 306 00:13:23,830 --> 00:13:21,590 are very important because they have a 307 00:13:26,020 --> 00:13:23,840 huge function in the release of DMT and 308 00:13:29,560 --> 00:13:26,030 things like that but it's also where 309 00:13:32,230 --> 00:13:29,570 you're able to have a conscious control 310 00:13:35,020 --> 00:13:32,240 over something that is normally 311 00:13:37,390 --> 00:13:35,030 unconscious hmm so that provides a link 312 00:13:40,270 --> 00:13:37,400 between the conscious and the 313 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:40,280 unconscious minds that's one reason why 314 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:41,930 there's a lot of breathing techniques 315 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:44,450 that are used in terms of meditations 316 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:46,490 because that is where you're able to get 317 00:13:52,750 --> 00:13:49,370 this training to be happening between 318 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:52,760 the conscious and unconscious pops right 319 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:54,560 on okay I was gonna actually have you 320 00:13:57,790 --> 00:13:55,970 elaborate on that because I'd had the 321 00:13:59,560 --> 00:13:57,800 quote written down breathing is the most 322 00:14:01,810 --> 00:13:59,570 important tool at our disposal for 323 00:14:03,550 --> 00:14:01,820 expanding our understanding of our minds 324 00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:03,560 and controlling its function and it got 325 00:14:07,690 --> 00:14:05,360 me thinking about things 326 00:14:09,130 --> 00:14:07,700 Michael greed said and the wim HOF 327 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:09,140 breathing method exactly what you're 328 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:12,290 talking about but this term organ 329 00:14:17,049 --> 00:14:16,130 consciousness I've heard people somewhat 330 00:14:20,319 --> 00:14:17,059 talk about this sort 331 00:14:22,329 --> 00:14:20,329 around the idea but I think that's 332 00:14:24,789 --> 00:14:22,339 fascinating to think that our organs 333 00:14:26,649 --> 00:14:24,799 themselves are conscious and have 334 00:14:29,349 --> 00:14:26,659 functions outside of the brain because 335 00:14:31,329 --> 00:14:29,359 that's not typically the way these 336 00:14:34,869 --> 00:14:31,339 things are thought about well actually 337 00:14:38,019 --> 00:14:34,879 all organs have a small neurotic bundle 338 00:14:41,409 --> 00:14:38,029 that are attached to them a mini brain a 339 00:14:43,709 --> 00:14:41,419 mini brain and like in the art it's 340 00:14:47,229 --> 00:14:43,719 about the size of like a wasp's brain 341 00:14:50,279 --> 00:14:47,239 but the stomach it has the same number 342 00:14:54,549 --> 00:14:50,289 of neurons as a dog's brain Wow 343 00:14:57,549 --> 00:14:54,559 that's why when people say oh I feel it 344 00:15:01,269 --> 00:14:57,559 my gut that's your unconscious giving 345 00:15:04,149 --> 00:15:01,279 you a hint that some of the information 346 00:15:07,779 --> 00:15:04,159 it has from these more quantum 347 00:15:10,869 --> 00:15:07,789 interactions Wow and so you know that's 348 00:15:13,209 --> 00:15:10,879 what that gut feeling actually is that's 349 00:15:15,569 --> 00:15:13,219 the most powerful expression of your 350 00:15:18,219 --> 00:15:15,579 unconscious mind that you can pick up on 351 00:15:20,139 --> 00:15:18,229 interesting and also there's a lot of 352 00:15:22,599 --> 00:15:20,149 musculature associated with the gut as 353 00:15:25,659 --> 00:15:22,609 well so you can get that tension that 354 00:15:28,270 --> 00:15:25,669 builds up and that can be an expression 355 00:15:31,150 --> 00:15:28,280 through our conscious state 356 00:15:34,660 --> 00:15:31,160 how's about we go into the multiple 357 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:34,670 personality article yes I was gonna ask 358 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:36,290 you about that too because of course 359 00:15:43,090 --> 00:15:41,090 when we look at things on the edges we 360 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:43,100 can kind of get a better understanding 361 00:15:47,020 --> 00:15:45,530 of certain material rather than looking 362 00:15:49,390 --> 00:15:47,030 at what's normal 363 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:49,400 so of course in this case you look at 364 00:15:52,630 --> 00:15:51,050 multiple personality disorder or 365 00:15:55,930 --> 00:15:52,640 schizophrenia and they become pretty 366 00:15:58,810 --> 00:15:55,940 useful tools for kind of mapping out the 367 00:15:59,980 --> 00:15:58,820 edges of the mind what does a multiple 368 00:16:03,460 --> 00:15:59,990 personality disorder 369 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:03,470 say to you how do we fold that in so at 370 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:06,010 this point we've talked a bit about 371 00:16:11,170 --> 00:16:08,570 information processing the mind and you 372 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:11,180 know I mean obviously that still ties 373 00:16:14,890 --> 00:16:13,490 back to the other model that we're all 374 00:16:19,180 --> 00:16:14,900 told which is that we're basically 375 00:16:21,340 --> 00:16:19,190 robots kind of meat robots and that our 376 00:16:24,850 --> 00:16:21,350 mind is this epic phenomenon like 377 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:24,860 software running on a computer but when 378 00:16:28,780 --> 00:16:26,290 you look at things like multiple 379 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:28,790 personality and the effects that the 380 00:16:35,230 --> 00:16:32,810 mind can have on the body like they have 381 00:16:37,410 --> 00:16:35,240 different physiology different 382 00:16:41,380 --> 00:16:37,420 personalities eyeglasses will change 383 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:41,390 deafness will change people's blood 384 00:16:46,540 --> 00:16:44,240 chemistry their allergies scars and 385 00:16:49,780 --> 00:16:46,550 marks will appear disappear my color 386 00:16:52,329 --> 00:16:49,790 will change so there's all sorts of 387 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:52,339 things that can happen on a physical 388 00:16:58,650 --> 00:16:54,890 level just as a result of your mental 389 00:17:02,740 --> 00:16:58,660 state yeah and I think this shows that 390 00:17:07,030 --> 00:17:02,750 the mind is actually where the real 391 00:17:09,189 --> 00:17:07,040 action is and the brain is just a organ 392 00:17:12,579 --> 00:17:09,199 for its expression it's not really the 393 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:12,589 generative power of the mind right to 394 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:15,770 use that whole analogy that our brain is 395 00:17:20,530 --> 00:17:17,569 just a receiver for consciousness it's 396 00:17:23,110 --> 00:17:20,540 like the signal is the real meat the 397 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:23,120 real juice the antenna is just a wire 398 00:17:28,420 --> 00:17:25,850 that gets the signal it's really not the 399 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:28,430 crux of the technology yeah it's like 400 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:30,410 saying that Dan Rather lives in a box in 401 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:36,050 your living room and man it is just so 402 00:17:41,650 --> 00:17:38,690 crazy the physiological differences in 403 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:41,660 multiple personality disorder I guess I 404 00:17:44,260 --> 00:17:42,410 didn't really 405 00:17:46,210 --> 00:17:44,270 that I mean that movie split and the 406 00:17:48,610 --> 00:17:46,220 coming sequel glass if you've just seen 407 00:17:51,250 --> 00:17:48,620 the trailer it is crazy they do show 408 00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:51,260 that stuff in one personality he's like 409 00:17:55,900 --> 00:17:54,260 a superhuman like super jacked and then 410 00:17:59,410 --> 00:17:55,910 in other personalities he looks like a 411 00:18:01,840 --> 00:17:59,420 regular guy oh I hadn't seen that yeah I 412 00:18:03,670 --> 00:18:01,850 haven't seen the movie split but I liked 413 00:18:05,740 --> 00:18:03,680 unbreakable it's all in the mix I mean 414 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:05,750 whatever whatever but it seems like that 415 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:08,450 movie goes into it I did read an article 416 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:11,590 about M night Shyamalan and how he was 417 00:18:18,940 --> 00:18:17,090 off limits blackballed by Hollywood he 418 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:18,950 went into some interesting territory and 419 00:18:25,690 --> 00:18:21,290 things like signs and all that for sure 420 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:25,700 yeah right on well sure we also talked 421 00:18:29,050 --> 00:18:27,410 about Dean raid and of course people 422 00:18:31,060 --> 00:18:29,060 should be familiar with him from a 423 00:18:33,790 --> 00:18:31,070 previous episode but you sent me a 424 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:33,800 presentation he gave on his direct 425 00:18:38,770 --> 00:18:35,840 consciousness double slit experiment 426 00:18:41,740 --> 00:18:38,780 which shows scientific proof that the 427 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:41,750 mind does affect matter that intention 428 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:43,520 has a real effect in the world 429 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:45,890 dr. ratings work is one of the major 430 00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:47,690 things this year that pushed me over the 431 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:50,000 edge of oh this magical thinking stuff 432 00:18:55,420 --> 00:18:52,730 is fun and interesting to more of a no 433 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:55,430 this is real this is very provable and 434 00:18:59,430 --> 00:18:57,410 quite serious you should actually refine 435 00:19:01,840 --> 00:18:59,440 yourself to be better at it 436 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:01,850 manifestation and all that but I guess 437 00:19:06,220 --> 00:19:04,370 can you talk to us about that study and 438 00:19:09,220 --> 00:19:06,230 how it folds into the theory of the mine 439 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:09,230 overall well I mean there's been a lot 440 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:11,600 of double-slit experiments that have 441 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:13,090 been done 442 00:19:18,510 --> 00:19:15,850 there's even one that has different 443 00:19:22,340 --> 00:19:18,520 paths the light can take and it shows 444 00:19:26,490 --> 00:19:22,350 that even after something has happened 445 00:19:28,590 --> 00:19:26,500 the past can be changed based off of a 446 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:28,600 sequence further down and whether 447 00:19:33,810 --> 00:19:32,230 something is observed or not so it's 448 00:19:37,050 --> 00:19:33,820 very interesting and there's a lot of 449 00:19:39,020 --> 00:19:37,060 permutations of it but in his discussion 450 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:39,030 about it he basically talks about the 451 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:42,730 fact that observation and specifically 452 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:45,610 what they call I can't remember what 453 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:47,770 exactly the term was basically it's a 454 00:19:55,050 --> 00:19:52,240 mind or a extra dimensional quality that 455 00:19:59,120 --> 00:19:55,060 needed to be present in the experiment 456 00:20:02,340 --> 00:19:59,130 like an observer a plant or an animal or 457 00:20:05,340 --> 00:20:02,350 person some sort of living thing that 458 00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,350 would be in this detection network for 459 00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:07,120 the experiment to actually work properly 460 00:20:12,150 --> 00:20:09,070 and that's something that was actually 461 00:20:14,820 --> 00:20:12,160 at the foundation of quantum theory from 462 00:20:17,340 --> 00:20:14,830 the beginning all the original quantum 463 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:17,350 theorists talked about this the actual 464 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:20,650 reason why quantum theory started to 465 00:20:25,590 --> 00:20:23,410 come about was because they were doing 466 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:25,600 plasm experiments they noticed that 467 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:29,170 their consciousness had an effect on the 468 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:32,890 plasma and so that's where this stuff 469 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:36,610 actually started so that's how all this 470 00:20:41,340 --> 00:20:39,490 kind of theory actually came out but 471 00:20:43,890 --> 00:20:41,350 when you talk to people about quantum 472 00:20:45,870 --> 00:20:43,900 physics they want to use it to build 473 00:20:48,990 --> 00:20:45,880 computers and they want to use it to 474 00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:49,000 make things like quantum dots Union 475 00:20:54,780 --> 00:20:51,840 materials but when it comes down to the 476 00:20:56,700 --> 00:20:54,790 ramifications and especially the history 477 00:20:58,380 --> 00:20:56,710 of that theory with regard to 478 00:21:01,170 --> 00:20:58,390 consciousness itself they don't want to 479 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:01,180 talk about it so it's something that is 480 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:03,940 repressed in science but is an integral 481 00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:07,090 part of science and that's something 482 00:21:12,690 --> 00:21:09,760 that I think needs to be solved right 483 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:12,700 it's really like another parallel to 484 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:14,050 psychedelics I mean we've talked about 485 00:21:17,390 --> 00:21:15,730 this stuff before and it might even come 486 00:21:21,540 --> 00:21:17,400 up further down the road today but 487 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:21,550 anything that leads you to an awakening 488 00:21:26,850 --> 00:21:25,600 that has you buying less products buying 489 00:21:29,250 --> 00:21:26,860 into consumerism 490 00:21:32,610 --> 00:21:29,260 spying into the authority less and 491 00:21:34,410 --> 00:21:32,620 feeling like this one life might not be 492 00:21:36,180 --> 00:21:34,420 all you have any of those kind of 493 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:36,190 thoughts they're all quarantined and 494 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:38,410 this would be another example of it just 495 00:21:44,010 --> 00:21:41,290 learning about the mind itself from this 496 00:21:46,020 --> 00:21:44,020 angle can lead you to the same places 497 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:46,030 you might be led if you studied 498 00:21:50,010 --> 00:21:48,850 psychedelics or meditation even I mean 499 00:21:52,590 --> 00:21:50,020 that was another thing with Dean 500 00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:52,600 Raiden's experiment is that yes 501 00:21:56,460 --> 00:21:54,640 conscious attention was shown that it 502 00:21:59,010 --> 00:21:56,470 can collapse the wave into a particle at 503 00:22:01,680 --> 00:21:59,020 a measurably higher rate than chance but 504 00:22:03,870 --> 00:22:01,690 he saw higher rates even still with 505 00:22:06,450 --> 00:22:03,880 meditators the non-meditators which is 506 00:22:08,340 --> 00:22:06,460 interesting and I mean I don't want to 507 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:08,350 get too fundamental and asked the same 508 00:22:12,810 --> 00:22:11,110 101 questions here but I guess I would 509 00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:12,820 ask you about meditation it's such a 510 00:22:16,740 --> 00:22:14,950 huge component what does it actually do 511 00:22:21,210 --> 00:22:16,750 does it recalibrate us is it like 512 00:22:25,650 --> 00:22:21,220 running the windows Defragmenter so if 513 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:25,660 you read that CIA document about the 514 00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:28,510 Gateway process it talks about the 515 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:31,030 holographic nature of reality and it 516 00:22:37,470 --> 00:22:33,970 talks about entrainment of hemispheres 517 00:22:38,940 --> 00:22:37,480 together and being able to use that to 518 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:38,950 go down to different levels of 519 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:41,890 consciousness and one thing I thought 520 00:22:45,710 --> 00:22:43,210 was really interesting is it talks about 521 00:22:50,130 --> 00:22:45,720 the blinking in and out of reality and 522 00:22:53,060 --> 00:22:50,140 by focusing your consciousness into the 523 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:53,070 part of reality that extends beyond time 524 00:22:57,780 --> 00:22:56,890 you can get into these going into the 525 00:23:00,140 --> 00:22:57,790 past and going 526 00:23:03,690 --> 00:23:00,150 future and things like that your mind 527 00:23:07,169 --> 00:23:03,700 yeah that document was crazy just for 528 00:23:09,539 --> 00:23:07,179 context for people it was a 1983 CIA 529 00:23:12,659 --> 00:23:09,549 document approved for release 20 years 530 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:12,669 later in 2003 they're analyzing the 531 00:23:16,860 --> 00:23:15,490 Munroe Institute's gateway process but 532 00:23:19,380 --> 00:23:16,870 yeah like you said they talk about so 533 00:23:21,690 --> 00:23:19,390 much more the cosmic egg time-travel 534 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:21,700 several forms of altered states and 535 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:24,010 manifestation it's interesting you 536 00:23:28,409 --> 00:23:26,530 mentioned that kind of flicker aspect 537 00:23:32,250 --> 00:23:28,419 because I did have a previous guest who 538 00:23:34,980 --> 00:23:32,260 thought he mathematically figured out 539 00:23:36,780 --> 00:23:34,990 the flicker of the universe but I don't 540 00:23:40,410 --> 00:23:36,790 know it just ties into a lot of strange 541 00:23:42,930 --> 00:23:40,420 threads from this year yeah I agree 542 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:42,940 that's a very very important document 543 00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:46,210 because it shows that the CIA and the 544 00:23:51,450 --> 00:23:50,049 deep state or everyone call it and had 545 00:23:55,220 --> 00:23:51,460 knowledge of this stuff for quite a 546 00:23:57,810 --> 00:23:55,230 while and obviously here's somebody I 547 00:23:59,370 --> 00:23:57,820 can remember I think was like six months 548 00:24:03,419 --> 00:23:59,380 or something he's been researching all 549 00:24:06,660 --> 00:24:03,429 this for the CIA to determine what he 550 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:06,670 wrote in there and if that's all it 551 00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:09,250 takes is a guy and some money to let him 552 00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:10,960 do six months with research to got a 553 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:13,750 decode all this yeah I mean I've learned 554 00:24:17,669 --> 00:24:15,850 about all this stuff on my own you know 555 00:24:19,830 --> 00:24:17,679 in my spare time and it took me longer 556 00:24:23,070 --> 00:24:19,840 but somebody with the resources can do 557 00:24:25,470 --> 00:24:23,080 it and say suppose this is something 558 00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:25,480 that really needs to be out there but 559 00:24:30,810 --> 00:24:29,440 it's not and you know why is that it's 560 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:30,820 because of what I was talking about 561 00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:33,190 before they don't want people to realize 562 00:24:38,250 --> 00:24:35,919 that we can do better 563 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:38,260 as long as they keep people thinking 564 00:24:45,539 --> 00:24:42,010 that our reality is just a product 565 00:24:46,919 --> 00:24:45,549 material things and we need to get our 566 00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:46,929 piece of the pie before it's all gone 567 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:49,120 and race down the gutter 568 00:24:55,919 --> 00:24:52,090 you know obviously that's not a winning 569 00:24:58,159 --> 00:24:55,929 solution but they're doing that for 570 00:25:02,100 --> 00:24:58,169 control I think it also has to do with 571 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:02,110 consciousness and what they know from 572 00:25:05,159 --> 00:25:04,450 the past you know we'll get into that a 573 00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:05,169 bit more 574 00:25:10,380 --> 00:25:07,870 with regard to how I think consciousness 575 00:25:13,620 --> 00:25:10,390 is changing and one thing I wanted to 576 00:25:16,260 --> 00:25:13,630 throw out here is that I really think I 577 00:25:18,990 --> 00:25:16,270 guess intention science for lack of a 578 00:25:21,659 --> 00:25:19,000 better term is pretty amazing stuff they 579 00:25:24,299 --> 00:25:21,669 tend to show the effect is pretty subtle 580 00:25:26,669 --> 00:25:24,309 but definitely measurable and that's 581 00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:26,679 without training or growing up with the 582 00:25:30,120 --> 00:25:28,270 view that all this stuff is possible 583 00:25:31,799 --> 00:25:30,130 like you were just saying I'm sure it 584 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:31,809 could be much more effective if we 585 00:25:37,140 --> 00:25:34,510 promoted this worldview from birth and 586 00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:37,150 Gordon white is sort of taken this to 587 00:25:41,669 --> 00:25:38,799 the next level with his premium members 588 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:41,679 by scheduling and tension sessions and I 589 00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:43,690 also received Mitch Horowitz his new 590 00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:45,910 book from his publisher and I haven't 591 00:25:49,950 --> 00:25:47,830 booked him just yet because we've been 592 00:25:52,049 --> 00:25:49,960 pretty magic heavy lately and he was 593 00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:52,059 just on rune soup but his book is called 594 00:25:56,979 --> 00:25:54,169 the miracle club and he basically says 595 00:25:59,769 --> 00:25:56,989 look if this works and it does let's 596 00:26:01,599 --> 00:25:59,779 pull together and focus our energy at 597 00:26:05,109 --> 00:26:01,609 the same time each day 598 00:26:06,999 --> 00:26:05,119 thus a club for making miracles and it's 599 00:26:08,739 --> 00:26:07,009 that sort of experimentation that I 600 00:26:11,049 --> 00:26:08,749 think is really going to take this work 601 00:26:13,289 --> 00:26:11,059 further fold in the previous episodes 602 00:26:16,450 --> 00:26:13,299 we've done about water and about 603 00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:16,460 engineering abundance it would be crazy 604 00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:18,559 the kind of world we could create and 605 00:26:24,669 --> 00:26:20,809 just thinking that maybe the ancients 606 00:26:27,999 --> 00:26:24,679 had something like this the picture gets 607 00:26:30,460 --> 00:26:28,009 clearer the more of this material I get 608 00:26:32,409 --> 00:26:30,470 into that you give to me and it's just 609 00:26:34,629 --> 00:26:32,419 crazy what that world could have been 610 00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:34,639 like yeah and I mean really that's what 611 00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:36,320 it's all about is keeping us at this 612 00:26:43,330 --> 00:26:38,960 level where we don't think about this 613 00:26:46,450 --> 00:26:43,340 stuff fundamentally that's what keeps us 614 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:46,460 from being able to live in that world so 615 00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:48,289 that's why I think that this is probably 616 00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:51,320 the most important podcast I'm getting 617 00:26:57,399 --> 00:26:54,799 to you ha ha ha I love it because 618 00:26:59,349 --> 00:26:57,409 without changing your mind and what you 619 00:27:01,659 --> 00:26:59,359 think is possible and actually trying to 620 00:27:06,879 --> 00:27:01,669 go out there and cheat it you'll never 621 00:27:10,029 --> 00:27:06,889 will failure is primarily the result of 622 00:27:11,159 --> 00:27:10,039 the lack of imagination so let's go 623 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:11,169 ahead and we'll talk a bit about 624 00:27:16,869 --> 00:27:13,730 consciousness and the quantum biology of 625 00:27:20,129 --> 00:27:16,879 microtubules sure that Stuart Hameroff 626 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:20,139 theory basically what Stuart Hameroff 627 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:25,369 discusses is the idea that microtubules 628 00:27:31,299 --> 00:27:28,850 in your cells have interactions at a 629 00:27:34,509 --> 00:27:31,309 quantum level and whenever we talk about 630 00:27:37,149 --> 00:27:34,519 quantum I just want to say that I wrote 631 00:27:40,479 --> 00:27:37,159 that forgotten mind essay right as I was 632 00:27:41,780 --> 00:27:40,489 starting to look into alchemy and stuff 633 00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:41,790 like that 634 00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:44,960 so it leverages a lot of quantum biology 635 00:27:50,060 --> 00:27:47,940 really the quantum the way I look at it 636 00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:50,070 is it's basically getting into the 637 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:51,480 etheric without saying what the etheric 638 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:53,910 is you know it's kind of a surface level 639 00:27:59,700 --> 00:27:57,170 measurement both the Uruk effects 640 00:28:02,160 --> 00:27:59,710 Parkinsons 641 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:02,170 so basically what quantum biology is is 642 00:28:09,150 --> 00:28:05,290 that's kind of our etheric tie into this 643 00:28:12,210 --> 00:28:09,160 larger reality so that happens at a 644 00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:12,220 cellular level and because it happens at 645 00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:15,190 a cellular level you get very basic 646 00:28:21,030 --> 00:28:18,040 information from typically and it needs 647 00:28:23,220 --> 00:28:21,040 to be filtered through your subconscious 648 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:23,230 in your conscious mind in order to be 649 00:28:27,870 --> 00:28:26,110 able to really grasp what the message 650 00:28:29,790 --> 00:28:27,880 was so that's part of the reason why I 651 00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:29,800 think there's a lot of people who go 652 00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:33,310 into trance states and get visions or 653 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:35,920 people who have some sort of psychedelic 654 00:28:42,090 --> 00:28:38,710 experience and then they have to let it 655 00:28:44,730 --> 00:28:42,100 kind of unravel in their mind for a 656 00:28:45,870 --> 00:28:44,740 period of days or weeks to really get an 657 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:45,880 understanding of what they've 658 00:28:52,020 --> 00:28:49,330 experienced so what dr. Hameroff is 659 00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:52,030 discussing is basically this connection 660 00:28:57,450 --> 00:28:55,150 between ourselves and the substructure 661 00:28:59,880 --> 00:28:57,460 of reality so that's the main thing that 662 00:29:03,900 --> 00:28:59,890 I want to talk about here is that's what 663 00:29:07,530 --> 00:29:03,910 feeds into your organs and all your body 664 00:29:11,070 --> 00:29:07,540 and then that gets sent up through your 665 00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:11,080 mind by the limbic system working with 666 00:29:15,660 --> 00:29:14,110 the rest of your brain that is what kind 667 00:29:17,550 --> 00:29:15,670 of comes into your consciousness and 668 00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:17,560 gets filtered through your subconscious 669 00:29:24,050 --> 00:29:21,670 which has all these overlays that have 670 00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:24,060 been built up in it for programming 671 00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:26,110 indoctrination and whether it's done by 672 00:29:33,330 --> 00:29:28,870 you or whether it's done by your family 673 00:29:35,630 --> 00:29:33,340 or your church or the media that's one 674 00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:35,640 of the reasons why there's all these 675 00:29:42,660 --> 00:29:38,350 messages embedded in all these different 676 00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:42,670 religions and they have tie-ins but 677 00:29:45,510 --> 00:29:43,870 they're all interpreted a bit 678 00:29:47,850 --> 00:29:45,520 differently because they all go through 679 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:47,860 this different cultural and personal 680 00:29:57,270 --> 00:29:53,130 filter before it is able to pass hmm 681 00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,280 that makes any sense yeah it does I mean 682 00:30:03,240 --> 00:29:59,440 it's deep stuff and I am an idiot but 683 00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:03,250 these microtubules I guess when that 684 00:30:07,140 --> 00:30:04,720 presentation when I was watching that 685 00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:07,150 presentation he says something to the 686 00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:09,550 effect of consciousness is more like a 687 00:30:13,620 --> 00:30:11,710 song than a computation I thought that 688 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:13,630 was a nice sentiment and he 689 00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:16,809 the sound of the vibration going on in 690 00:30:22,529 --> 00:30:19,929 our microtubules and it was kind of 691 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:22,539 weird it invoked a strange feeling man 692 00:30:26,669 --> 00:30:23,710 it's like I don't know if I'm supposed 693 00:30:29,970 --> 00:30:26,679 to hear that that like you know eerie 694 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,980 hum yeah it was a little weird but I 695 00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:31,840 guess if we're gonna use a computer 696 00:30:37,470 --> 00:30:34,720 analogy for simpletons like me should we 697 00:30:41,490 --> 00:30:37,480 think of the microtubules is like the 698 00:30:43,140 --> 00:30:41,500 wiring that consciousness is using to be 699 00:30:45,330 --> 00:30:43,150 delivered throughout our body like the 700 00:30:47,549 --> 00:30:45,340 way wiring of a computer you'd be like 701 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:47,559 the antenna okay it is the antenna 702 00:30:50,730 --> 00:30:49,210 instead of just simplistically say in 703 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:50,740 the brain we would say what he's 704 00:30:54,090 --> 00:30:52,330 actually measuring on there said there's 705 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:54,100 computations being done on the 706 00:30:59,010 --> 00:30:56,890 microtubules okay that's how he 707 00:31:01,289 --> 00:30:59,020 establishes that there's this quantum 708 00:31:03,260 --> 00:31:01,299 connection so there is some information 709 00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:03,270 processing that's done at that level 710 00:31:08,070 --> 00:31:06,190 interesting and this was also a 711 00:31:10,980 --> 00:31:08,080 component but what is the connection 712 00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:10,990 between the microtubules and ultrasound 713 00:31:15,419 --> 00:31:13,620 I had a previous guest he was very anti 714 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:15,429 ultrasound she thought it was pretty 715 00:31:20,250 --> 00:31:17,530 harmful to unborn babies and produced 716 00:31:23,850 --> 00:31:20,260 radiation I don't know but he talks 717 00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:23,860 about a control group of mice who they 718 00:31:28,049 --> 00:31:25,960 were administering a drug and the one 719 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:28,059 control group got no drug and they only 720 00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:31,970 got ultrasound and it cured their cancer 721 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,320 yeah I don't know about that well so you 722 00:31:41,620 --> 00:31:38,240 got to realize ultrasound is basically 723 00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:41,630 vibrations this is just kind of my 724 00:31:46,690 --> 00:31:44,360 off-the-cuff analysis but it's 725 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:46,700 essentially vibrations and there's a 726 00:31:51,670 --> 00:31:49,910 frequency system those vibrations so if 727 00:31:54,550 --> 00:31:51,680 you modulate it properly it could 728 00:31:56,740 --> 00:31:54,560 potentially you know kind of like I 729 00:32:00,280 --> 00:31:56,750 think we've talked about right systems 730 00:32:02,590 --> 00:32:00,290 before yes so if it's dealing with 731 00:32:06,670 --> 00:32:02,600 cancer it could potentially destroy the 732 00:32:10,090 --> 00:32:06,680 cancer cells by tuning for the specific 733 00:32:12,790 --> 00:32:10,100 cancer frequency and being able to 734 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:12,800 disrupt them have a flesh from the body 735 00:32:16,690 --> 00:32:14,690 after that and that's what Brian is 736 00:32:18,990 --> 00:32:16,700 doing with viruses and specifically 737 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:19,000 cancer virus itself so they could also 738 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:22,970 tapped into disrupting the ecology of 739 00:32:29,260 --> 00:32:25,970 cancer in the body so that's another 740 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:29,270 possibility but yeah I mean there's also 741 00:32:33,370 --> 00:32:31,130 genetic changes or things like that that 742 00:32:34,450 --> 00:32:33,380 can potentially happen from something 743 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:34,460 like that so if you have the wrong 744 00:32:41,350 --> 00:32:37,610 frequency to damage your your DNA by 745 00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:41,360 breaking apart specific areas so I don't 746 00:32:45,730 --> 00:32:43,790 think that ultrasound is something 747 00:32:47,380 --> 00:32:45,740 that's really safe and I heard that 748 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:47,390 episode and you know I think it's 749 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:51,170 tragedy it's going on basically for 750 00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:52,610 everything that we have in terms of 751 00:32:59,700 --> 00:32:56,510 material technology there's a allegory 752 00:33:02,650 --> 00:32:59,710 in terms of these more spiritual or 753 00:33:04,060 --> 00:33:02,660 implosion rather than explosion based or 754 00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:04,070 you know whatever you want to call it 755 00:33:09,310 --> 00:33:08,000 mm-hmm types of technology so you know 756 00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:09,320 there's things that could be done but 757 00:33:16,290 --> 00:33:13,150 it's not accepted science 758 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:16,300 right and it's crazy how simple so many 759 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:18,970 of these things seem to be light therapy 760 00:33:24,330 --> 00:33:21,730 sound therapy I mean this isn't super 761 00:33:27,510 --> 00:33:24,340 complex or invasive stuff and it's 762 00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:27,520 basically free turn to the tools they're 763 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:29,710 very basic but the understanding you're 764 00:33:36,210 --> 00:33:33,250 going into wielding those tools has to 765 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:36,220 be a lot deeper right right so like we 766 00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:40,330 have tools that are very complex but the 767 00:33:47,580 --> 00:33:41,830 understanding that's needed to wield 768 00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:47,590 them plenty how that is another I guess 769 00:33:51,810 --> 00:33:49,120 it's more of a paper that I sent you was 770 00:33:57,810 --> 00:33:51,820 heart brain and spirit by dr. Mohammed 771 00:34:02,070 --> 00:33:57,820 Omar Selim yes and that spoke a bit 772 00:34:04,590 --> 00:34:02,080 about the heart and also the interaction 773 00:34:07,620 --> 00:34:04,600 between the organs you know somebody has 774 00:34:10,740 --> 00:34:07,630 a heart transplant they can actually get 775 00:34:13,590 --> 00:34:10,750 memories from the person who donated 776 00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:13,600 their heart and same with other organs 777 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:15,310 people will get aspects of their 778 00:34:21,330 --> 00:34:18,610 personality or memories associated with 779 00:34:23,399 --> 00:34:21,340 the person who died and that's some 780 00:34:25,950 --> 00:34:23,409 proof right there that of all the stuff 781 00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:25,960 I've been talking about and there's one 782 00:34:29,610 --> 00:34:27,460 way to look at that where people would 783 00:34:31,260 --> 00:34:29,620 say oh well that must mean memories are 784 00:34:32,730 --> 00:34:31,270 literally stored in that organ but I 785 00:34:35,220 --> 00:34:32,740 guess what a better way of thinking 786 00:34:36,930 --> 00:34:35,230 about it be that that's just the fractal 787 00:34:39,350 --> 00:34:36,940 nature that all the little components 788 00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:39,360 contain at least a piece of the whole 789 00:34:46,470 --> 00:34:42,639 well if you think about quantum theory 790 00:34:48,210 --> 00:34:46,480 and the idea of entanglement then the 791 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:48,220 person receiving the organ is becoming 792 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:51,490 entangled with that other person at a 793 00:34:57,210 --> 00:34:55,330 quantum level that organ it definitely 794 00:35:00,960 --> 00:34:57,220 has a tie to that other person as well 795 00:35:03,660 --> 00:35:00,970 so if you think about the microtubules 796 00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:03,670 being like antennas it's still pulling 797 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:06,310 in this information from that other 798 00:35:13,710 --> 00:35:10,210 energy field as well that's a while yeah 799 00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:13,720 it is well let me ask you this this is 800 00:35:18,810 --> 00:35:16,780 kind of a random question but do we know 801 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:18,820 where memory is stored it's touched on 802 00:35:23,490 --> 00:35:20,650 and some of the things you sent me but I 803 00:35:25,710 --> 00:35:23,500 just wonder why something like chronic 804 00:35:26,819 --> 00:35:25,720 cannabis use would have such an effect 805 00:35:28,859 --> 00:35:26,829 on 806 00:35:30,959 --> 00:35:28,869 memory I mean I know it's getting into 807 00:35:33,749 --> 00:35:30,969 those other realms but there's 808 00:35:35,099 --> 00:35:33,759 definitely a connection there so I would 809 00:35:38,370 --> 00:35:35,109 say that there's kind of two 810 00:35:41,819 --> 00:35:38,380 repositories of memory there's one 811 00:35:43,769 --> 00:35:41,829 encoded in proteins and I believe Stuart 812 00:35:46,559 --> 00:35:43,779 Hameroff talks about that but there's 813 00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:46,569 also kind of the energetic component as 814 00:35:49,799 --> 00:35:49,390 well because another thing that Stuart 815 00:35:52,739 --> 00:35:49,809 Hameroff 816 00:35:56,370 --> 00:35:52,749 discusses is the fact that he believes 817 00:36:00,029 --> 00:35:56,380 we are capable of forming memory outside 818 00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:00,039 where bodies so that can't be purely 819 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:06,670 so that is dealing more with the 820 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:09,770 energetic aspect I would say it's kind 821 00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:12,890 of both but another thing about the mind 822 00:36:17,859 --> 00:36:16,070 there's a book called holographic 823 00:36:21,970 --> 00:36:17,869 universe that was written in the late 824 00:36:25,450 --> 00:36:21,980 90s and it discusses how there have been 825 00:36:27,579 --> 00:36:25,460 experiments done on rats where portions 826 00:36:29,589 --> 00:36:27,589 of the brain were removed they got to 827 00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:29,599 the point where they chopped these poor 828 00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:31,990 rats up to the point where they barely 829 00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:35,150 moved and like right before they could 830 00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:37,280 barely move they could still run the 831 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:41,060 maze this is a rat with 10% of its brain 832 00:36:46,810 --> 00:36:43,690 left and still able to run the maze so 833 00:36:48,010 --> 00:36:46,820 that brings up the whole aspect of 834 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:48,020 holographic 835 00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:50,690 memory and getting into the whole aspect 836 00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:52,730 those brought up by the see a doctor 837 00:37:00,490 --> 00:36:55,070 guarding the holographic nature memory 838 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:00,500 in reality so yeah that's not that may 839 00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:02,210 not be as think of an answer as most 840 00:37:09,870 --> 00:37:07,520 people want but hey it is what it is it 841 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:09,880 seems like memory is somewhere else 842 00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:15,050 maybe cannabis tends to gunk up those 843 00:37:20,650 --> 00:37:17,660 works the other thing is that Stewart a 844 00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:20,660 merabh is an anesthesiologist and so he 845 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:23,390 deals with that aspect of being 846 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:25,730 completely unconscious unaware was going 847 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:28,490 around to not recording any memory at 848 00:37:34,210 --> 00:37:31,250 least in the body at the time and it 849 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:34,220 could be that you know memory has this 850 00:37:39,309 --> 00:37:37,130 kind of resonance quality so where 851 00:37:41,559 --> 00:37:39,319 you're actually drawing on something 852 00:37:43,089 --> 00:37:41,569 else that's kind of interesting because 853 00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:43,099 I've heard the term state-specific 854 00:37:49,329 --> 00:37:45,710 memory and then I've heard people say if 855 00:37:51,940 --> 00:37:49,339 you lose something when you're high or 856 00:37:54,730 --> 00:37:51,950 drunk and then your sober mind you can't 857 00:37:57,790 --> 00:37:54,740 figure it out if you if you get drunk or 858 00:38:00,130 --> 00:37:57,800 high again you might get it back like 859 00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:00,140 literally state-specific memory or even 860 00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:02,510 the fact that if you get high let's say 861 00:38:06,370 --> 00:38:04,550 when I went to Amsterdam even though I 862 00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:06,380 have a high tolerance I'm gonna get 863 00:38:11,230 --> 00:38:08,960 higher because even geographically 864 00:38:13,089 --> 00:38:11,240 there's a difference in surroundings 865 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:13,099 it's a weird theory but I mean it's kind 866 00:38:21,490 --> 00:38:16,730 of in this cake the morphic field of the 867 00:38:23,950 --> 00:38:21,500 pop cloud there's some to it there is 868 00:38:26,170 --> 00:38:23,960 something to it yeah I mean that can 869 00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,180 happen and I think there's two classes 870 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:28,880 of ghost encounters or spirit encounters 871 00:38:35,859 --> 00:38:33,050 one is basically where people are 872 00:38:38,319 --> 00:38:35,869 encountering a disembodied spirit but 873 00:38:41,710 --> 00:38:38,329 then another one is where there's been 874 00:38:43,930 --> 00:38:41,720 an imprint of consciousness that's been 875 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:43,940 made on an otherwise an intimate object 876 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:49,130 and that is replayed that feeling or 877 00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:51,410 whatever happen that caused that imprint 878 00:38:57,579 --> 00:38:54,560 that's psychic negative to be implanted 879 00:38:59,560 --> 00:38:57,589 in that material then it'll just kind of 880 00:39:02,530 --> 00:38:59,570 play it out over and over again and I 881 00:39:04,329 --> 00:39:02,540 think some haunting and ghost encounters 882 00:39:06,819 --> 00:39:04,339 are based off of something like that 883 00:39:08,859 --> 00:39:06,829 where just another consciousness comes 884 00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:08,869 in and kind of replays that mm-hmm 885 00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:11,510 but then there's also where it's 886 00:39:17,140 --> 00:39:14,000 actually a disembodied entity you know 887 00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:17,150 it's kind of like UFO encounters and 888 00:39:20,710 --> 00:39:17,750 things like that 889 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:20,720 I think that there's deep state programs 890 00:39:26,290 --> 00:39:23,810 there's potentially people from other 891 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:26,300 planets or the interior the earth 892 00:39:31,839 --> 00:39:28,730 but then there's also entities that are 893 00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:31,849 living in our honest fear that might be 894 00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:33,910 plasma based and there's 895 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:35,599 interdimensional entities there's all 896 00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:38,210 sorts of things that it can be you know 897 00:39:41,980 --> 00:39:39,920 I don't think that we need to limit 898 00:39:45,370 --> 00:39:41,990 ourselves to saying you know well I 899 00:39:48,579 --> 00:39:45,380 believe in sasquatch but you're talking 900 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:48,589 about fairies here you're way off my 901 00:39:54,309 --> 00:39:51,290 radar or like okay I'll talk to you 902 00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:54,319 about interdimensional consciousness but 903 00:40:00,160 --> 00:39:58,250 Giants are a bridge too far well I know 904 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:00,170 we're gonna get deeper into the idea of 905 00:40:06,010 --> 00:40:03,890 plasma beings but god this is just a 906 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:06,020 mind-blowing idea with some of the stuff 907 00:40:11,230 --> 00:40:09,290 that we had both been digesting recently 908 00:40:13,450 --> 00:40:11,240 because I went to contact in the desert 909 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:13,460 and they give you the night-vision 910 00:40:18,670 --> 00:40:15,890 goggles and you look up in the sky and 911 00:40:21,010 --> 00:40:18,680 you see all kinds of movement and I 912 00:40:22,839 --> 00:40:21,020 don't know I guess I didn't have a box 913 00:40:24,849 --> 00:40:22,849 to put that in I just like yeah that's 914 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:24,859 interesting I mean it's not like I'm 915 00:40:29,650 --> 00:40:27,770 seeing crafts necessarily but I'm seeing 916 00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:29,660 something up there that arts 917 00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:32,000 and they're moving all over the place 918 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:34,640 and then you know I think about guess 919 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:36,970 I've had like Gordon who have made 920 00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:40,130 mentioned that space is probably more 921 00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:42,710 water like I mean even Paula viola 922 00:40:47,620 --> 00:40:44,990 talked about that I mean if ether is 923 00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:47,630 kind of like water maybe space instead 924 00:40:52,359 --> 00:40:50,030 of a vacuum should be thought of as a 925 00:40:54,990 --> 00:40:52,369 medium in which life can actually exist 926 00:40:59,260 --> 00:40:55,000 and then you showed me some of these 927 00:41:02,529 --> 00:40:59,270 clips of entities moving around in the 928 00:41:04,510 --> 00:41:02,539 sky that looked like amoebas they just 929 00:41:08,349 --> 00:41:04,520 look like amoebas and the theory is that 930 00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:08,359 maybe plasma was the first thing to gain 931 00:41:12,789 --> 00:41:10,400 consciousness maybe these beans though 932 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:12,799 they don't have necessarily a humanoid 933 00:41:17,970 --> 00:41:16,250 form are vastly super-intelligent and 934 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:17,980 ancient they almost sound like 935 00:41:23,020 --> 00:41:20,690 Lovecraft's old ones to a degree like 936 00:41:25,809 --> 00:41:23,030 maybe these are the fundamental life 937 00:41:27,609 --> 00:41:25,819 forces and maybe they maybe we're 938 00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:27,619 protected by our atmosphere but at 939 00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:29,510 certain periods they come in and feed on 940 00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:32,480 the energy in here it gets deep but I 941 00:41:38,109 --> 00:41:34,609 think that there's a real case to be 942 00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:38,119 made that life is quite strange and 943 00:41:41,529 --> 00:41:39,680 there's some super intelligent things 944 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:41,539 that don't necessarily have humanoid 945 00:41:45,069 --> 00:41:42,770 form we tend to think there's a 946 00:41:46,420 --> 00:41:45,079 hierarchy and that a humanoid form is 947 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:46,430 going to be the most intelligent but 948 00:41:52,829 --> 00:41:49,609 these things seem to be completely 949 00:41:55,029 --> 00:41:52,839 foreign only visible sometimes 950 00:41:57,339 --> 00:41:55,039 translucent and transparent at other 951 00:41:59,890 --> 00:41:57,349 times and maybe they can manifest to 952 00:42:02,260 --> 00:41:59,900 look like a craft and maybe they do kind 953 00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:02,270 of help our earth and work with it it's 954 00:42:08,829 --> 00:42:04,910 crazy but I'm Way past grey aliens at 955 00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:08,839 this point yeah well one thing about 956 00:42:13,319 --> 00:42:10,760 what you're talking about which Trevor 957 00:42:15,549 --> 00:42:13,329 James Constable calls the sky critters 958 00:42:19,180 --> 00:42:15,559 one of the big things that you'll notice 959 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:19,190 when people are observing NASA footage 960 00:42:24,579 --> 00:42:22,250 as they keep showing these halos or dots 961 00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:24,589 moving across the screen and you know a 962 00:42:29,019 --> 00:42:26,569 lot of people just say oh well that's 963 00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:29,029 just dust with the sunlight reflecting 964 00:42:35,740 --> 00:42:33,260 off of it and so it looks bigger but 965 00:42:38,289 --> 00:42:35,750 there's actually that footage that you 966 00:42:41,470 --> 00:42:38,299 saw from Trevor James constable of the 967 00:42:43,269 --> 00:42:41,480 tether and that's a very good example of 968 00:42:44,709 --> 00:42:43,279 these things because you can 969 00:42:48,699 --> 00:42:44,719 actually see them going in front of the 970 00:42:51,669 --> 00:42:48,709 tether and so that gives you a relative 971 00:42:53,469 --> 00:42:51,679 scale for how big these things are and 972 00:42:56,229 --> 00:42:53,479 so the ones that they were showing in 973 00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:56,239 that they ranged anywhere from football 974 00:43:02,529 --> 00:42:58,640 field or two all the way up to like a 975 00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:02,539 half a mile mile yeah yeah so these are 976 00:43:08,890 --> 00:43:06,169 big big entities if they're up there and 977 00:43:10,959 --> 00:43:08,900 it seems like they are you know I mean 978 00:43:14,259 --> 00:43:10,969 Trevor James constable like you're 979 00:43:15,849 --> 00:43:14,269 saying about infrared vision goggles he 980 00:43:18,279 --> 00:43:15,859 started taking pictures of these things 981 00:43:21,459 --> 00:43:18,289 I think was back in the sixties with 982 00:43:23,529 --> 00:43:21,469 infrared and ultraviolet film and I 983 00:43:25,390 --> 00:43:23,539 think he actually found some specific 984 00:43:27,549 --> 00:43:25,400 formulations of the I mean you know back 985 00:43:29,019 --> 00:43:27,559 then film was the big thing so they're 986 00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:29,029 always different formulations people 987 00:43:33,069 --> 00:43:30,319 coming up with her better color 988 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:33,079 enhancement right and so the one that he 989 00:43:40,569 --> 00:43:37,130 found had specific frequency peaks in 990 00:43:42,729 --> 00:43:40,579 the ultraviolet infrared range and so by 991 00:43:46,749 --> 00:43:42,739 using that film you pick these things up 992 00:43:50,799 --> 00:43:46,759 best right because that's where these 993 00:43:52,569 --> 00:43:50,809 things are able to be seen we can't see 994 00:43:56,579 --> 00:43:52,579 it in our visual spectrum that we have 995 00:43:58,989 --> 00:43:56,589 with our eyes but at these edges and 996 00:44:02,409 --> 00:43:58,999 with this context we've been talking 997 00:44:06,159 --> 00:44:02,419 about today of this quantum realm or an 998 00:44:09,789 --> 00:44:06,169 ethereal realm or this flicker once you 999 00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,799 have that context for a model is it so 1000 00:44:15,069 --> 00:44:11,599 weird to think that there's beans that 1001 00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:15,079 can alter their density or jump from one 1002 00:44:19,689 --> 00:44:16,640 side of the flicker to the other it's 1003 00:44:22,019 --> 00:44:19,699 not to me it's it's seeming way more 1004 00:44:25,179 --> 00:44:22,029 reasonable and when people see 1005 00:44:28,749 --> 00:44:25,189 paranormal entities or crafts that just 1006 00:44:31,449 --> 00:44:28,759 kind of disappear maybe they can control 1007 00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:31,459 that to a degree it's crazy and this 1008 00:44:36,789 --> 00:44:33,169 model of space I mean I'm starting to 1009 00:44:40,299 --> 00:44:36,799 feel like we live on a rock inside an 1010 00:44:42,299 --> 00:44:40,309 air bubble in a cosmic ocean with ocean 1011 00:44:44,919 --> 00:44:42,309 like creatures floating around out there 1012 00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:44,929 it's like all just a matter of scale it 1013 00:44:49,749 --> 00:44:47,119 really is kind of like you look in the 1014 00:44:51,249 --> 00:44:49,759 ocean at these amoeba like things and 1015 00:44:53,189 --> 00:44:51,259 then you look in the sky at the things 1016 00:44:56,830 --> 00:44:53,199 he was capturing they look very similar 1017 00:44:59,650 --> 00:44:56,840 maybe as above so below 1018 00:45:03,360 --> 00:44:59,660 I mean the big thing with these sky 1019 00:45:06,610 --> 00:45:03,370 critters is you know it's evidence that 1020 00:45:09,070 --> 00:45:06,620 there's a lot more out there than we 1021 00:45:11,620 --> 00:45:09,080 know about mm-hmm 1022 00:45:14,110 --> 00:45:11,630 the other thing it speaks to is that 1023 00:45:18,010 --> 00:45:14,120 what they're using for their propulsion 1024 00:45:23,530 --> 00:45:18,020 is a fundamental aspect of our reality 1025 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:23,540 at some level so why would just us use 1026 00:45:28,660 --> 00:45:26,090 it or just these aliens use it why 1027 00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:28,670 wouldn't natural creatures that can 1028 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:31,910 leverage this energy and this ability to 1029 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:34,610 create this bubble of reality for the 1030 00:45:41,590 --> 00:45:37,490 purposes of travelling between places 1031 00:45:43,810 --> 00:45:41,600 why wouldn't natural creatures do that 1032 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:43,820 as well and there'd be something that 1033 00:45:50,350 --> 00:45:46,850 can exploit this feature right 1034 00:45:53,740 --> 00:45:50,360 wow man well obviously this is a whole 1035 00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:53,750 lot of stuff all fascinating as we're 1036 00:45:59,770 --> 00:45:56,480 trying to wrap it up is there anything 1037 00:46:01,690 --> 00:45:59,780 more to say in relation to previous 1038 00:46:05,550 --> 00:46:01,700 episodes or how your theory of the mind 1039 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:05,560 relates to the different elemental 1040 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:07,850 alchemy shows that we've done in the 1041 00:46:14,020 --> 00:46:10,810 series or what we might do in the future 1042 00:46:16,510 --> 00:46:14,030 well definitely for sure in the future 1043 00:46:19,870 --> 00:46:16,520 my next talk is going to be the fire 1044 00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:19,880 episode that will definitely tie in with 1045 00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:22,160 the Sun and the changes that are going 1046 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:25,520 on and things like that but also alchemy 1047 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:28,970 because they talk about the hidden fire 1048 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:31,610 or the alchemist fire and that's 1049 00:46:39,460 --> 00:46:34,610 basically where they're using their bio 1050 00:46:43,660 --> 00:46:39,470 plasma to affect the experiments or the 1051 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:43,670 transformations they do so I think we've 1052 00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:46,370 got that to look forward to I mean 1053 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:48,500 obviously I could go back in time think 1054 00:46:52,690 --> 00:46:50,450 of all sorts of different connections to 1055 00:46:55,330 --> 00:46:52,700 the other episodes but you know we've 1056 00:46:58,750 --> 00:46:55,340 talked about tours you you know how that 1057 00:47:01,240 --> 00:46:58,760 works but I think that's really the way 1058 00:47:04,540 --> 00:47:01,250 that things are transmitted at a quantum 1059 00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:04,550 level and you know we talked about how 1060 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:07,790 quantum theory I think he's just kind of 1061 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:10,490 the surface level there's this whole 1062 00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:13,010 science going on behind that that 1063 00:47:19,780 --> 00:47:15,440 basically leads us to have these 1064 00:47:22,690 --> 00:47:19,790 observations yeah and this really could 1065 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:22,700 be realities biggest secrets and it's 1066 00:47:28,990 --> 00:47:26,210 just been so much fun people can 1067 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:29,000 obviously engage with you on the plus 1068 00:47:32,980 --> 00:47:31,490 site and the forum is there anything 1069 00:47:36,070 --> 00:47:32,990 else to say about maybe contact 1070 00:47:39,339 --> 00:47:36,080 information or what you might want 1071 00:47:40,990 --> 00:47:39,349 people to check out well you've got a 1072 00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:41,000 lot of links that I have given you about 1073 00:47:45,010 --> 00:47:43,310 different topics feel free to forward 1074 00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:45,020 those on they'll be in the show notes 1075 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:48,950 about it always a pleasure and something 1076 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:51,050 else I do like to ask you just because 1077 00:47:56,650 --> 00:47:53,330 you did emerge as a plus member of the 1078 00:47:58,750 --> 00:47:56,660 podcast how do you feel about THC this 1079 00:48:02,770 --> 00:47:58,760 past year or so am I losing it do I 1080 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:02,780 still got it oh definitely I was really 1081 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:04,130 excited when you said you were going to 1082 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:06,290 be going a bit more down the 1083 00:48:13,570 --> 00:48:10,130 consciousness rabbit hole and getting 1084 00:48:16,540 --> 00:48:13,580 into those sorts of topics and I knew I 1085 00:48:19,710 --> 00:48:16,550 was going to be having the mind episode 1086 00:48:22,780 --> 00:48:19,720 just took us a while to get around to it 1087 00:48:24,609 --> 00:48:22,790 you know I think that we've covered a 1088 00:48:27,849 --> 00:48:24,619 lot and you've covered a lot that leads 1089 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:27,859 up to this I think as well so I think 1090 00:48:34,510 --> 00:48:31,970 was / to us the path you've taken you 1091 00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:34,520 know I know some people aren't 1092 00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:38,510 necessarily down with a lot of the more 1093 00:48:45,550 --> 00:48:43,040 consciousness related or the more Theory 1094 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:45,560 sort of topics but I would hope that 1095 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:48,770 this episode would help them to kind of 1096 00:48:56,140 --> 00:48:52,690 come to terms with a way that they can 1097 00:48:58,810 --> 00:48:56,150 understand these sorts of ideas and how 1098 00:49:03,480 --> 00:48:58,820 it relates to their works essential 1099 00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:03,490 reality and how they can think about it 1100 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:07,730 mmm-hmm yeah I mean this is conspiracy 1101 00:49:12,010 --> 00:49:09,770 in a sense this is a great bridge to 1102 00:49:15,089 --> 00:49:12,020 well if they've had us doing all this 1103 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:15,099 stuff in negative ways 1104 00:49:20,189 --> 00:49:17,410 we can [\h__\h] about that all day and 1105 00:49:22,589 --> 00:49:20,199 raise our fists in the sky but what is 1106 00:49:24,839 --> 00:49:22,599 the better way to do things like if we 1107 00:49:28,349 --> 00:49:24,849 don't have that component we can't move 1108 00:49:30,589 --> 00:49:28,359 forward so that is kind of my mindset 1109 00:49:32,819 --> 00:49:30,599 with going into something like 1110 00:49:34,829 --> 00:49:32,829 permaculture it's kind of crazy man 1111 00:49:37,349 --> 00:49:34,839 because I have talked to a few potential 1112 00:49:40,259 --> 00:49:37,359 guests like I mentioned Don Nance why I 1113 00:49:43,469 --> 00:49:40,269 hope Don listens to this and I'd love to 1114 00:49:46,949 --> 00:49:43,479 hear an episode with him I hope so too 1115 00:49:49,410 --> 00:49:46,959 but some of these guys not naming any 1116 00:49:51,660 --> 00:49:49,420 names in particular but they look at my 1117 00:49:53,729 --> 00:49:51,670 previous content or how the show is 1118 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:53,739 framed and they're like I don't fit with 1119 00:49:58,289 --> 00:49:55,690 your show and I'm like no no I swear 1120 00:50:00,239 --> 00:49:58,299 that you do because you look giving us 1121 00:50:04,109 --> 00:50:00,249 the alternative models you know and 1122 00:50:06,479 --> 00:50:04,119 those are exactly so it's a little bit 1123 00:50:08,279 --> 00:50:06,489 of a tough thing to cast an umbrella 1124 00:50:10,380 --> 00:50:08,289 that everyone's comfortable with but 1125 00:50:11,069 --> 00:50:10,390 here we are and I'm looking forward to 1126 00:50:13,789 --> 00:50:11,079 the future 1127 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:13,799 so thanks again man really deep stuff 1128 00:50:19,349 --> 00:50:16,410 you're a bright mind in troubled times 1129 00:50:21,089 --> 00:50:19,359 take care of yourself well you know I 1130 00:50:24,329 --> 00:50:21,099 just hope that I'm bright enough to 1131 00:50:29,110 --> 00:50:24,339 light the way for a few people cheers 1132 00:50:31,610 --> 00:50:29,120 thank you for platform you got it 1133 00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:31,620 alright alright dear listeners the 1134 00:50:37,010 --> 00:50:34,590 long-awaited return of shaman Janee are 1135 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:37,020 not selling you nothing just doing it 1136 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:38,610 for the love of the game breaking down 1137 00:50:43,310 --> 00:50:40,770 his theories of the mind and a whole lot 1138 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:43,320 more and if you took a shot for every 1139 00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:45,510 time I said maybe in this show you 1140 00:50:51,140 --> 00:50:46,950 definitely wouldn't be going to work in 1141 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:51,150 the morning Jesus and these episodes are 1142 00:50:57,290 --> 00:50:54,810 always a little different preparation 1143 00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:57,300 wise I'm absolutely more comfortable 1144 00:51:01,340 --> 00:50:58,890 when I'm interviewing someone about 1145 00:51:03,790 --> 00:51:01,350 their book it's just a very simple ABC 1146 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:03,800 process and these episodes are formed 1147 00:51:10,070 --> 00:51:07,770 more by shaman sending me a long list of 1148 00:51:13,070 --> 00:51:10,080 resources that when all compiled 1149 00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:13,080 together work as the building blocks for 1150 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:16,710 you to understand how he sees things in 1151 00:51:23,090 --> 00:51:20,130 one area or another not a bad thing at 1152 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:23,100 all just a little bit different in terms 1153 00:51:29,590 --> 00:51:26,250 of how I prepare to do my hosting duties 1154 00:51:32,540 --> 00:51:29,600 should we say and then these episodes 1155 00:51:35,290 --> 00:51:32,550 themselves act as larger chunks that can 1156 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:35,300 be combined for an even wider overview 1157 00:51:39,650 --> 00:51:37,290 or to think of it from the top down 1158 00:51:42,260 --> 00:51:39,660 rather than the bottom up it's really 1159 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:42,270 like he knows a lot about this 1160 00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:45,210 suppressed largely ignored ether physics 1161 00:51:50,180 --> 00:51:47,940 alchemical nature based model of the 1162 00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:50,190 world and because it is so much 1163 00:51:56,180 --> 00:51:53,280 information we've broken it down by 1164 00:51:58,070 --> 00:51:56,190 element and that's really smart right 1165 00:52:01,160 --> 00:51:58,080 because if this model is the real deal 1166 00:52:03,590 --> 00:52:01,170 we should be able to see how this view 1167 00:52:06,410 --> 00:52:03,600 incorporates each element by looking at 1168 00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,420 these sort of fringe researchers by 1169 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:08,640 looking at sagas of the past like the 1170 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:11,130 Sonora Aero Club and say well see this 1171 00:52:16,130 --> 00:52:13,290 could be real if we look at the sciences 1172 00:52:18,890 --> 00:52:16,140 through this other lens or here's how 1173 00:52:22,430 --> 00:52:18,900 this lens would be applied to water or 1174 00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:22,440 earth etc in a lot of ways you got to 1175 00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:24,510 wipe the slate clean on certain things 1176 00:52:29,780 --> 00:52:26,910 and then we rebuild the model with 1177 00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:29,790 better resources ones that as we said 1178 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:32,880 have been marginalized but I do get a 1179 00:52:36,590 --> 00:52:34,530 little self-conscious with these 1180 00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:36,600 episodes with sh'mon jr. when I put on 1181 00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:39,510 my producer hat and it's always in the 1182 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:41,310 back of my mind but I'm trying really 1183 00:52:44,849 --> 00:52:42,730 hard to avoid this 1184 00:52:48,030 --> 00:52:44,859 natural tendency for two people to say 1185 00:52:49,859 --> 00:52:48,040 oh well did you see this part oh yeah 1186 00:52:52,109 --> 00:52:49,869 dude that part was awesome or did you 1187 00:52:54,750 --> 00:52:52,119 read this oh yeah that was mind-blowing 1188 00:52:57,180 --> 00:52:54,760 you know I try to be careful that we're 1189 00:52:59,010 --> 00:52:57,190 not just talking over the audience's 1190 00:53:01,650 --> 00:52:59,020 head about a collection of material they 1191 00:53:03,930 --> 00:53:01,660 don't have context for it's like you're 1192 00:53:06,090 --> 00:53:03,940 sitting with two people that are 1193 00:53:08,340 --> 00:53:06,100 discussing a movie that you haven't seen 1194 00:53:09,900 --> 00:53:08,350 I don't know maybe it's not that 1195 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:09,910 different from a book you haven't read 1196 00:53:12,930 --> 00:53:11,530 but it feels a little different because 1197 00:53:15,510 --> 00:53:12,940 we're pulling from so many different 1198 00:53:16,890 --> 00:53:15,520 sources again you know not the end of 1199 00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:16,900 the world it's just a little bit 1200 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:18,640 different but what can I really do 1201 00:53:25,130 --> 00:53:21,490 because to my knowledge the book that 1202 00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:25,140 pulls all this together does not exist I 1203 00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,230 really really hope that he writes it but 1204 00:53:34,020 --> 00:53:31,359 right now this is probably the best way 1205 00:53:37,470 --> 00:53:34,030 to put these threads together this might 1206 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:37,480 be the best culmination this series that 1207 00:53:43,740 --> 00:53:40,810 exists and I really do feel like we're 1208 00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:43,750 doing something quite special here I 1209 00:53:50,070 --> 00:53:46,240 mean I can say that because it's 90/10 1210 00:53:51,950 --> 00:53:50,080 him but it's something like this that 1211 00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:51,960 I'm really honored to be a part of 1212 00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:55,390 because it does take a lot of these 1213 00:54:00,840 --> 00:53:58,290 pieces to craft this alternative view 1214 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:00,850 the conventional models are pretty 1215 00:54:06,690 --> 00:54:03,490 persistent and it's easy to get sucked 1216 00:54:08,849 --> 00:54:06,700 back into their way of thinking but if 1217 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:08,859 there wasn't anything to this suppressed 1218 00:54:14,430 --> 00:54:10,810 perspective you wouldn't expect us to 1219 00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:14,440 have this level of detail or this huge a 1220 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:16,750 body of information for so many 1221 00:54:20,849 --> 00:54:18,970 different disconnected researchers past 1222 00:54:23,490 --> 00:54:20,859 and present that all complement each 1223 00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:23,500 other within the alchemy ether physics 1224 00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:26,230 paradigm wilhelm reich viktor 1225 00:54:32,070 --> 00:54:28,960 schauberger t Townsend Brown Don Nance 1226 00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:32,080 Gerald [\h__\h] all these guys they all 1227 00:54:37,950 --> 00:54:34,630 have their own piece of the alchemical 1228 00:54:40,650 --> 00:54:37,960 elephant and I've said this a lot but on 1229 00:54:43,740 --> 00:54:40,660 this conspiratorial journey each episode 1230 00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:43,750 is always going to drop us off at a 1231 00:54:48,270 --> 00:54:46,750 different point on the map that's the 1232 00:54:50,130 --> 00:54:48,280 nature of interviewing a bunch of 1233 00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:50,140 different people that are at a bunch of 1234 00:54:54,930 --> 00:54:53,200 different levels of understanding what 1235 00:54:56,460 --> 00:54:54,940 I'm hoping the audience can do is 1236 00:54:58,700 --> 00:54:56,470 regardless of what 1237 00:55:01,260 --> 00:54:58,710 person might say about our wider 1238 00:55:02,940 --> 00:55:01,270 viewpoints I hope you can understand 1239 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:02,950 what it is about their work that I think 1240 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:06,490 is worth amplifying and then obviously 1241 00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:10,570 bringing back into the wider picture of 1242 00:55:14,010 --> 00:55:12,730 what we've been doing for years and it 1243 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:14,020 is years because I've been in this game 1244 00:55:19,050 --> 00:55:16,570 for a while and while it is nice to have 1245 00:55:21,390 --> 00:55:19,060 a constant reminder of how we've been 1246 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:21,400 screwed in various areas and a carefully 1247 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:23,530 crafted worldview has been woven into 1248 00:55:28,050 --> 00:55:25,570 society that affects almost all areas of 1249 00:55:30,060 --> 00:55:28,060 life that schools are doing the best 1250 00:55:32,310 --> 00:55:30,070 they can that medicine should be based 1251 00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:32,320 on petrochemicals rather than nature 1252 00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:34,480 that leaders care about their people 1253 00:55:39,330 --> 00:55:36,670 that NASA doesn't have undisclosed 1254 00:55:41,070 --> 00:55:39,340 agendas that the FDA and AMA and all 1255 00:55:42,990 --> 00:55:41,080 these three-letter agencies are 1256 00:55:45,630 --> 00:55:43,000 protecting the people's well-being in 1257 00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:45,640 their current form that war isn't just a 1258 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:48,130 money-making call that geoengineering 1259 00:55:52,260 --> 00:55:50,530 isn't going on all around us that we 1260 00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,270 aren't all just victims of the money 1261 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:54,160 spell and the economic nightmare that 1262 00:55:59,310 --> 00:55:55,930 runs our lives isn't just some 1263 00:56:01,910 --> 00:55:59,320 deep-rooted scam all this stuff and I 1264 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:01,920 didn't even mention aliens or magic 1265 00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:05,410 obviously these are all components of 1266 00:56:11,070 --> 00:56:08,220 well I guess the higher side world view 1267 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:11,080 higher side hypothesis sounds better but 1268 00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:13,210 my whole point is that we're well past a 1269 00:56:18,810 --> 00:56:16,510 hypothesis at this point and while it 1270 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:18,820 will always be in the mix I want to 1271 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:22,930 slightly recalibrate to get past the 1272 00:56:28,620 --> 00:56:25,810 we've been sold falsehoods shaking our 1273 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:28,630 fists in the air and more into okay I 1274 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:30,970 get that well what has been hidden and 1275 00:56:36,329 --> 00:56:34,330 how deep can we get into it that 1276 00:56:37,950 --> 00:56:36,339 actually might be a more dangerous area 1277 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:37,960 even though it doesn't sound nearly as 1278 00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:40,690 provocative and obviously that well 1279 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:42,960 what's been hidden attitude is the 1280 00:56:49,740 --> 00:56:45,970 driving force behind all the magic shows 1281 00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:49,750 lately but there are many doors to be 1282 00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:52,510 opened and Sherman jr. has done so much 1283 00:56:58,320 --> 00:56:55,390 for us in that regard in fact I know I 1284 00:57:00,900 --> 00:56:58,330 say this preparation process is a bit 1285 00:57:03,660 --> 00:57:00,910 harder for me than a typical one but on 1286 00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,670 the plus side we get so many resources 1287 00:57:09,220 --> 00:57:05,680 in these episodes that I could do a lot 1288 00:57:11,020 --> 00:57:09,230 of follow-up and I do try 1289 00:57:13,809 --> 00:57:11,030 the problem is that these can be really 1290 00:57:16,809 --> 00:57:13,819 tough nuts to crack a lot of them aren't 1291 00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:16,819 even looking for publicity and even 1292 00:57:22,180 --> 00:57:19,270 though I like to do all sorts of shows 1293 00:57:24,430 --> 00:57:22,190 it doesn't help when I ask a serious 1294 00:57:26,049 --> 00:57:24,440 scientist to be my next guest and they 1295 00:57:28,930 --> 00:57:26,059 check out the website and see we all 1296 00:57:30,549 --> 00:57:28,940 died in 2012 or the history hoax or any 1297 00:57:32,289 --> 00:57:30,559 number of things that might rub them the 1298 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:32,299 wrong way and wonder if they're in the 1299 00:57:38,380 --> 00:57:35,410 right place so I am seeing some 1300 00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:38,390 invitations declined from people in 1301 00:57:43,329 --> 00:57:40,609 these areas and I'm trying to better 1302 00:57:45,309 --> 00:57:43,339 time my requests and take into account 1303 00:57:48,370 --> 00:57:45,319 which shows they'll be seen when they do 1304 00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:48,380 check out the site in today's episode we 1305 00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:50,240 talked a lot about this thread on the 1306 00:57:56,170 --> 00:57:52,910 Plus forum and the Susan joy Renison 1307 00:57:58,510 --> 00:57:56,180 interview and I digested a lot more of 1308 00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:58,520 her work in this past week and I tried 1309 00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:00,319 to get her to come on but she said that 1310 00:58:05,380 --> 00:58:02,569 she's kind of out of the game hasn't 1311 00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:05,390 updated her site in a while just isn't 1312 00:58:10,839 --> 00:58:08,480 that interested and I get all that but 1313 00:58:13,089 --> 00:58:10,849 even with a three-year old site she's 1314 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:13,099 still hidden a lot of powerful points 1315 00:58:16,660 --> 00:58:14,690 that aren't getting out there very much 1316 00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:16,670 and I'd really love to see her 1317 00:58:23,020 --> 00:58:20,510 reconsider but I understand and it is 1318 00:58:25,780 --> 00:58:23,030 these alchemical science areas that we 1319 00:58:27,490 --> 00:58:25,790 need to get into and it's with a lot of 1320 00:58:29,490 --> 00:58:27,500 these scientists that I would like to 1321 00:58:32,109 --> 00:58:29,500 gain a bit more favor 1322 00:58:34,990 --> 00:58:32,119 maybe listeners can help me out there I 1323 00:58:37,150 --> 00:58:35,000 don't know it's just that we don't have 1324 00:58:39,339 --> 00:58:37,160 to convince Nick Redfern or Jordan 1325 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:39,349 Maxwell that THC is a complimentary 1326 00:58:45,250 --> 00:58:42,130 audience we need to convince the rebel 1327 00:58:49,059 --> 00:58:45,260 academics that this is a serious place 1328 00:58:52,270 --> 00:58:49,069 and I don't so much care if they believe 1329 00:58:54,730 --> 00:58:52,280 in conspiracy I just want to understand 1330 00:58:58,420 --> 00:58:54,740 and present their work to the audience 1331 00:58:59,920 --> 00:58:58,430 and we can fold it in ourselves yeah I'm 1332 00:59:01,420 --> 00:58:59,930 always going to ask a question or two 1333 00:59:03,670 --> 00:59:01,430 what do you think the implications of 1334 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:03,680 this are and they might hem and haw 1335 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:04,970 because they don't really want to get 1336 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:07,490 into that dramatic conspiracy 1337 00:59:13,210 --> 00:59:10,250 Association I can't blame them but again 1338 00:59:15,099 --> 00:59:13,220 that isn't their role that can be a 1339 00:59:18,130 --> 00:59:15,109 certain subtext where we read between 1340 00:59:20,260 --> 00:59:18,140 the lines I'm sure you get it I'm just 1341 00:59:22,790 --> 00:59:20,270 trying to say that I have to put some 1342 00:59:25,580 --> 00:59:22,800 thought into how and when I approach 1343 00:59:28,070 --> 00:59:25,590 these people and I have to accept that 1344 00:59:30,350 --> 00:59:28,080 because I used the term conspiracy and I 1345 00:59:32,420 --> 00:59:30,360 choose to brand myself with a weed theme 1346 00:59:36,170 --> 00:59:32,430 then I might have created some 1347 00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:36,180 unnecessary roadblocks and to bring it 1348 00:59:40,190 --> 00:59:38,160 all back thankfully we have people like 1349 00:59:42,850 --> 00:59:40,200 Shama engineer who has his finger on the 1350 00:59:45,350 --> 00:59:42,860 pulse and can summarize things for us I 1351 00:59:47,540 --> 00:59:45,360 talked in the intro like this was the 1352 00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:47,550 culmination or the grand finale of 1353 00:59:52,790 --> 00:59:50,040 everything even though we haven't done 1354 00:59:55,910 --> 00:59:52,800 the fire episode yet but it is the mind 1355 00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:55,920 and the overall reality model that does 1356 01:00:01,070 --> 00:59:58,410 tie everything together and we went to 1357 01:00:03,170 --> 01:00:01,080 some weird places for sure do check out 1358 01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:03,180 the resources we covered they'll be in 1359 01:00:08,300 --> 01:00:05,520 the show notes Trevor James constable in 1360 01:00:10,490 --> 01:00:08,310 particular I think that's fascinating 1361 01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:10,500 stuff and also the best video 1362 01:00:15,290 --> 01:00:13,170 demonstration of a real make it rain 1363 01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:15,300 organ accumulator device that I have 1364 01:00:20,780 --> 01:00:18,720 seen which brings me to another point 1365 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:20,790 kind of is I am in the mindset that I'm 1366 01:00:24,740 --> 01:00:22,530 ready to get out in the field and check 1367 01:00:26,540 --> 01:00:24,750 out some of this stuff I'm kind of sick 1368 01:00:30,170 --> 01:00:26,550 of talking about it I've got the time 1369 01:00:33,350 --> 01:00:30,180 I've got the resources if you are out 1370 01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:33,360 there quietly tinkering away on some 1371 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:36,240 secret science and you're willing to 1372 01:00:40,220 --> 01:00:38,370 show me these things firsthand 1373 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:40,230 I'd love to come take a look we can keep 1374 01:00:44,420 --> 01:00:41,970 you anonymous we can maybe do an 1375 01:00:46,250 --> 01:00:44,430 interview with some fake name or 1376 01:00:48,740 --> 01:00:46,260 something but that's not even super 1377 01:00:50,300 --> 01:00:48,750 important as long as I can say I've had 1378 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:50,310 someone who's shown me that so I know 1379 01:00:55,310 --> 01:00:53,210 it's real just throwing that out there 1380 01:00:57,620 --> 01:00:55,320 but either way if you liked the first 1381 01:00:59,360 --> 01:00:57,630 hour maybe it's time for you to dive 1382 01:01:02,240 --> 01:00:59,370 into a plus membership we don't 1383 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:02,250 reference the form very much and it does 1384 01:01:07,580 --> 01:01:05,250 need some moderation actually but I 1385 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:07,590 bought and pay on going for this really 1386 01:01:12,770 --> 01:01:10,410 nice and robust forum platform and if 1387 01:01:16,730 --> 01:01:12,780 you sign up for THC plus your membership 1388 01:01:18,980 --> 01:01:16,740 to that forum is forever I mention it 1389 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:18,990 because it was a part of today's show 1390 01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:21,330 and it is a great resource for follow-up 1391 01:01:26,750 --> 01:01:23,760 material and higher side centric 1392 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:26,760 conversation within a closed loop so you 1393 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:30,570 avoid spam and trolls and all that for 1394 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:33,210 the most part and it is true that for 1395 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:35,370 about a year I've had way too many 1396 01:01:38,630 --> 01:01:36,330 guests on 1397 01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:38,640 list and I can even get to and more 1398 01:01:44,810 --> 01:01:41,310 stuffs always popping up but my first 1399 01:01:47,870 --> 01:01:44,820 place I go when I am in need is the Plus 1400 01:01:49,220 --> 01:01:47,880 forum guests request thread so keep that 1401 01:01:51,710 --> 01:01:49,230 in mind too it's a lot better than 1402 01:01:53,810 --> 01:01:51,720 emailing me if you were to post an 1403 01:01:56,330 --> 01:01:53,820 overview and some videos and links on 1404 01:01:59,230 --> 01:01:56,340 that thread because I will see it 1405 01:02:02,660 --> 01:01:59,240 eventually and it won't get just 1406 01:02:06,170 --> 01:02:02,670 destroyed in the Avalanche that is my 1407 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:06,180 inbox but since I am talking about the 1408 01:02:12,140 --> 01:02:08,730 forum if you have experience moderating 1409 01:02:15,230 --> 01:02:12,150 a Zen forró forum and you'd like to be 1410 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:15,240 an active moderator for me in exchange 1411 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:16,530 for a plus membership 1412 01:02:21,230 --> 01:02:19,650 email me and we'll talk about it of 1413 01:02:23,690 --> 01:02:21,240 course now that I've said that I expect 1414 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:23,700 about a dozen or so emails so please 1415 01:02:29,030 --> 01:02:26,370 tell me about your past experience and 1416 01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:29,040 assure me that I can count on you to be 1417 01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:31,200 somewhat active in there because that is 1418 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:34,110 important but as for today's show in the 1419 01:02:40,220 --> 01:02:36,330 extra hour for plus people we talked 1420 01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:40,230 about space whether that Netflix movie 1421 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:43,440 bird box mercury blooded plasma beans 1422 01:02:47,330 --> 01:02:45,930 Don Nance in the coming M state of 1423 01:02:49,850 --> 01:02:47,340 everything god I thought that was 1424 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:49,860 interesting we also talked about a 1425 01:02:54,620 --> 01:02:51,690 little book called summer with the 1426 01:02:58,040 --> 01:02:54,630 leprechauns and all that it contains the 1427 01:03:00,200 --> 01:02:58,050 role of elementals in this reality the 1428 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:00,210 effects of electronics on consciousness 1429 01:03:07,130 --> 01:03:04,770 the 5g jamming signal DNA and light and 1430 01:03:10,130 --> 01:03:07,140 a whole lot more so don't sell yourself 1431 01:03:12,500 --> 01:03:10,140 short I give out a ton of commercial 1432 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:12,510 free content and I hope to entice you to 1433 01:03:18,530 --> 01:03:15,450 dive into hearing the whole deal the 1434 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:18,540 higher side chats plus calm ah but I 1435 01:03:23,180 --> 01:03:20,850 guess that does it for me guys thanks a 1436 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:23,190 lot for listening and for trusting me to 1437 01:03:27,770 --> 01:03:25,410 bring you the good stuff week after week 1438 01:03:30,380 --> 01:03:27,780 I'm gonna keep trying and I'll see you 1439 01:03:32,090 --> 01:03:30,390 then your move sorcerer's of the 1440 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:32,100 sciences spell crafters of the 1441 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:34,290 materialist mindset and quarantine errs 1442 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:38,410 of the ethereal solutions you're [\h__\h] 1443 01:03:52,180 --> 01:03:45,250 [Music] 1444 01:04:02,900 --> 01:03:52,190 maybe you'll see goddamn this plan no 1445 01:04:09,849 --> 01:04:03,950 with 1446 01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:09,859 [Music] 1447 01:04:23,740 --> 01:04:15,160 Oh No it go it gone bye-bye 1448 01:04:27,540 --> 01:04:23,750 blue I think I sync it up don't you 1449 01:04:27,550 --> 01:04:29,890 with 1450 01:04:35,740 --> 01:04:32,910 [Music] 1451 01:05:09,570 --> 01:04:35,750 the 1452 01:05:15,250 --> 01:05:11,820 don't you know 1453 01:05:15,260 --> 01:05:20,660 we're done 1454 01:05:30,450 --> 01:05:26,260 [Music] 1455 01:05:30,460 --> 01:05:33,260 this 1456 01:05:33,270 --> 01:05:39,199 don't you know they can try 1457 01:05:39,209 --> 01:05:47,440 with the chemicals they spread 1458 01:05:54,350 --> 01:05:50,040 [Music] 1459 01:06:49,790 --> 01:05:54,360 to the pollen to the